FAQ
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Did Fred and Adele Astaire star in the Mary Pickford silent movie, "Fanchon
and the Cricket"?
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What were the exact words of the review of Fred's original screen test,
and who wrote them?
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Did Fred and Ginger really hate each other?
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In "The Band Wagon," why do we frequently see references to a
movie called "The Proud Land"?
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When and where exactly were Fred and Phyllis married?
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What are the lyrics to (insert song name here)?
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What is a "Babbitt" and a "Bromide"?
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Did Fred have a middle name?
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I'm having problems obtaining something. Where can I do so?
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Is there any footage of Fred and Adele dancing together?
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How tall was Fred?

1. Did Fred and Adele Astaire star in the Mary Pickford silent movie, "Fanchon
and the Cricket"?
No. It is, however, a common misconception as Fred and Adele were present as
observers during the filming but did not participate.
In 1914, Fred and Adele took a summer vacation at Delaware Water Gap, a
resort area in Pennsylvania. While Ann (Fred's mother), Adele and Fred were
there, Mary Pickford arrived on location to film a short, "Fanchon and the
Cricket." They visited the set to watch, but did not appear in the film.
Fred's autobiography and his biographies agree on this- for example, the most thorough, Billman's
"Bio-Bibliography", writes, "They observed filming as visitors,
but insisted they did not appear in the film. They were, however, fascinated
with their first up-close observation of the moviemakers who were friendly with
all of the youngsters."
Besides, as copies of the short are not known to exist, it's pretty much a
moot point.

2. What were the exact words of the review of Fred's original screen test,
and who wrote them?
Can't act. Slightly bald. Also dances.
The words above have become part of folklore. Several versions of the
infamous review have floated around. Some include "Can't sing." It's
quite ridiculous to imagine that a reviewer would write "Can't sing"
about a Broadway musical star who was introducing songs by the Gershwins, among
others, and was feted on both sides of the Atlantic.
Even worse, some sources site the last phrase as "Can dance a
little," which is even more ridiculous given that Fred was acclaimed at the
time by audiences and critics alike as the greatest dancer on Broadway,
and possibly the greatest non-ballet dancer in the world.
Fred himself confirmed the correct version in his infamous 20/20 interview
with Barbara Walters, the same interview where he announced his impending
marriage to the jockey. He was very firm about it, listening to Walter's version
(which ended "Can dance a little") before correcting her.
In her 1988 autobiography, Debbie Reynolds identifies the author as one Burt
Grady.

3. Did Fred and Ginger really hate each other?
It's a common misconception. Both of Fred and Ginger have denied emphatically
over the years any rumour that they hated each other off screen. They were great
friends, and were always happy to see each other when they ran into each other.
Fred got asked that question many times in his interviews (For example, Dick
Cavett 1970, Michael Parkinson 1975) and each time not only denied it with the
practised, slightly-weary air of someone who had been asked that many times, but
even joked about it.
In his autobiography, Steps in Time, Fred makes clear he got along
with Ginger very well. So well, in fact, that he talks about the only fight they
ever had. Chapter 19, "Feathers," deals with the argument over the
infamous feather costume in Top Hat (She wears
it in the 'Cheek to Cheek' number). The dress was made of thousands of Ostrich
feathers, and when they danced the dress shed and sent feathers flying
everywhere. Take after take was ruined because of it, but Ginger refused to wear
a different dress (she had helped design this one, and was personally invested
in it). Thus there was tension on the set until they finally got the number
filmed. But as Fred makes clear, "We laughed about that episode for weeks
afterward. It was sort of a running gag with Ginger and me. I used to call her
feathers!" (210).
Elsewhere in his autobiography his tone toward her is one of an affectionate
friend, even calling her by pet names. Similarly, in Ginger: My Story,
Ginger says the same thing. Their only fight was over the costume. Otherwise
they were terrific pals.
There were a few reasons behind the rumour. Fred and Ginger were such magic
onscreen, producing such powerful emotions, that fans concluded that they either
had to be in love or hate each other off screen. The second conclusion was
reached because, firstly, Fred was reluctant to kiss Ginger onscreen. He had
publicly stated that he didn't like to kiss his leading lady onscreen because he
thought he didn't do love scenes well. Other people have said it's because his
wife didn't want him to. Either way, Fred and Ginger didn't engage in a real
kiss till the second-last movie of the series. Secondly, Fred and Ginger weren't
often seen together off screen. They moved in different social circles. Also,
quite understandably, they saw each other for up to 16 hours a day while filming
and rehearsing, and so weren't in any rush to hang out together.

4. In "The Band Wagon," why do we frequently see references to a
movie called "The Proud Land"?
This question was solved by a member of the Fred Astaire Mailing
List, Mark
"Mark" Wilson:
While watching "The Bad and the Beautiful" with Kirk Douglas,
Lana Turner, Dick Powell among others, I discovered something. Kirk Douglas
plays a controversial producer who makes big budget pictures. He adapts a best
selling book (written by Dick Powell) called "The Proud Land" into a
movie. The power struggle etc leads to his downfall. Since "The Bad and the
Beautiful" was released in 1952, it would have been fresh on the minds of
viewers as "The Bandwagon" (1953) poked a little fun at it. Plus,
"The Bad and the Beautiful" was directed by Vincente Minnelli who also
directed The Bandwagon.
Plus, I suppose, it could have been a reference to a similar internal power
struggle in "The Band Wagon" between the writers, the egomanic
director, and the two leads.

5. When and where exactly were Fred and Phyllis married?
The when is well known. Fred and Phyllis were married July 12, 1933, by State
Supreme Court Justice Selah B. Strong. Henry and Maude Bull, her aunt and
uncle, were the witnesses, and Mr. Bull gave Phyllis away.
The where has been a little uncertain. According to Bob Thomas, it was in
Justice Strong's chambers. However, according to both Billman and Freedland, it
was in the court library. Given that Billman is extremely accurate and Thomas
made a few small errors in his book (including the maiden name of Ann Astaire),
I would be more inclined to trust Billman. I clincher, I think, is the Astaire's
wedding photo. They are clearly standing
in a library (Next to Phyllis is her uncle Henry Bull, and on the right is
Justice Strong).
They spent July 13 on a one day honeymoon on a yacht, the Captiva,
owned by Mrs. Payne Whitney, the mother of Fred's friend Jock. On July 14, the
newly weds boarded a Ford tri-motor plane for California to begin Fred's new
movie career. Typically, Fred worked right up to the end- on July 11, he was
recording a version of "Night And Day" for the British label Columbia!

6. What are the lyrics to (insert song name here)?
A number of Fred's songs are hard to decipher. I've listed some of them on
the lyrics page. If the song you're looking for isn't
there, feel free to send a request and I'll try and
track it down for you!

7. What is a "Babbitt" and a "Bromide"?
For this one I have to thank Chris Bamberger (also a member of the stellar Fred
Astaire Mailing List):
Main Entry: Babˇbitt
Pronunciation: 'ba-b&t
Function: noun
Etymology: George F. Babbitt, character in the novel Babbitt (1922) by Sinclair
Lewis
Date: 1923
1 : a business or professional man who conforms
unthinkingly to prevailing middle-class standards
Main Entry: broˇmide
Pronunciation: 'brO-"mId
Function: noun
Date: 1836
1 : a binary compound of bromine with another element or a
radical including some (as potassium bromide) used as sedatives
2 a : a commonplace or tiresome person : BORE
b : a commonplace or hackneyed statement or notion

8. Did Fred have a middle name?
It's been rumoured that Fred had a middle name, possibly starting with
"E." Frederick E. Austerlitz?
Gary "Terror of eBay" Shupak of the Fred
Astaire Mailing List writes:
Well, a quick look through some of the bios at hand turned up no middle
name for Fred. I did see "E." as his father's middle initial.
The biography by Satchell states that the birth of Fred was not even
registered and that no birth certificate was issued until 30 some years later at
his mother's initiative. Not sure how accurate that account is.
I would surmise that there simply may never have been a middle name - if
there had been I would think that it would have been a matter of public record
by now.
If you're wondering about big sister Adele, her middle name was Marie.

9. I'm having problems obtaining something. Where can I do so?
Unfortunately some of Fred's movies are out of print, as well as many other
things. If you've tried my Buy Fred pages with no
luck, here's what you can do.
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Movies/TV Shows: If you're in the USA and have cable, be patient. Almost
all of Fred's movies are shown on Turner
Classic Movies or American Movie
Classics. You can always write in and request a show of his.
Occasionally, other channels carry his shows, for example Fox. His
television appearances may turn up on TVLand.
Try this page for a
list of his appearances on TV this month. To purchase, or if you're
impatient, try Collector's Choice Video,
which has a greater range, but at higher price. And there's always ebay.
For PAL format, try Blackstar.
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Books: Try a bigger library. Or you can go to a used bookstore. Online,
there's the Advanced Book Exchange and
Alibris. Also, Fred
Astaire Mailing List member The Ace reports, "Have had a lot of
luck recently in obtaining out-of-print and used books from barnesandnoble.com
and powells.com." Sallyann, another
list member, suggests Bibliofind.
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Music: If you've exhausted used CD and record stores, you can give Collector's
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10. Is there any footage of Fred and Adele dancing together?
Thus far there is but one short clip of Fred and Adele Astaire dancing with
Marilyn Miller, in a rehearsal for "Smiles."
It can by found in the two-part documentary of Fred, "Fred Astaire:
Puttin' On His Top Hat" and "Fred Astaire: Change Partners And
Dance." It is narrated by Joanne Woodward, and both episodes are an hour
long. It was shown on PBS on March 9 and 10, 1980, and was produced by the
Educational Broadcast Corp. The sequence shows Fred, Adele and Marilyn dancing
onstage (the camera was in the opposite wing, so we see them from the side),
laughing at a joke about their bad form, and dancing off again. It originally
was the end segment to a 20 minute short entitled, "Backstage on
Broadway," which featured film of showgirls practicing on the roofs of New
York and Gershwin rehearsing the chorus for his new show.
Special thanks to David Chertok and Astaire
Mailing List member M.S. for discovering the clips and passing them on to
the documentary makers!

11. How tall was Fred?
Fred's son-in-law wrote authoritatively that Fred was 5'9".
Contemporary eyewitness reports all agree that Fred was between 5'8"
and 5'9".
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